Bianchi and SV Switzerland

An inter­view with Product Management Director Claudio Schmitz

Freshest Food: Your web­site sta­tes, among other things, that you sel­ect your sup­pliers based on defi­ned qua­li­ty cri­te­ria. What cri­te­ria are those?

Claudio Schmitz: One of the most important cri­te­ria is cer­tain­ly sus­taina­bi­li­ty. For exam­p­le, just this week I recei­ved an appli­ca­ti­on from a small fish­mon­ger, and when I visi­ted, the­re was sim­ply abso­lut­e­ly not­hing that would meet our sus­taina­bi­li­ty cri­te­ria. Working with this sup­plier was the­r­e­fo­re not an opti­on for us. Distribution is also an important point. The pro­ducts must be ordera­ble for as many restau­rants as pos­si­ble. That natu­ral­ly requi­res the appro­pria­te logi­stics on the part of our part­ners. And last but not least, we also regu­lar­ly taste our sup­pliers’ pro­ducts again and again—this is enorm­ously important, espe­ci­al­ly for new pro­ducts and new concepts. 

What exact­ly do you mean by sus­taina­bi­li­ty? It is a broad term. 

With our sus­taina­bi­li­ty pro­gram­me ONE TWO WE (www.one-two-we.ch), we have intro­du­ced various mea­su­res to make our offe­ring, pro­cu­re­ment, ope­ra­ti­ons and logi­stics more sus­tainable. For exam­p­le, we star­ted with the topic of “vege­ta­ri­an” almost five years ago; we are the only cate­rer to hold MSC/ASC cer­ti­fi­ca­ti­on; and we are curr­ent­ly focu­sing on “ani­mal welfare”—all with the aim of “CO2 reduc­tion”. By 2015, we were able to redu­ce CO2 by 10%; by 2019, it will be ano­ther 10%. These are just a few of many examples. 

Was that dri­ven by poli­ti­cal pres­su­re? Or social pres­su­re? Or becau­se it is a trend? Or out of conviction? 

We all have a duty to lea­ve our des­cen­dants a world wit­hout eco­lo­gi­cal bur­dens. For us, it is the­r­e­fo­re clear: as a com­pa­ny, we have a respon­si­bi­li­ty. That is why, as one of the first gastro­no­my com­pa­nies world­wi­de, we set our­sel­ves clear CO2 tar­gets. We the­r­e­fo­re work, among other things, with WWF Switzerland and other part­ners to imple­ment the topic com­pre­hen­si­ve­ly and cor­rect­ly. At pre­sent, we are gra­du­al­ly con­ver­ting our ran­ge to ani­mal-fri­end­ly label­led meat, in coope­ra­ti­on with the Swiss Animal Protection STS. This means we are once again taking a pio­nee­ring role in Switzerland. Sustainability at SV Switzerland is the­r­e­fo­re not just lip service—we live it every day. 

You now pro­du­ce over 100,000 meal por­ti­ons every day. That makes you an inte­re­st­ing radar system for chan­ges in eating habits. Have you noti­ced anything extra­or­di­na­ry in recent years? 

Eating habits are decisi­ve­ly influen­ced by social chan­ge. This gives rise to mega­trends such as mobi­li­ty, health, sus­taina­bi­li­ty or coll­ec­ti­vi­ty. We respond by con­ti­nu­al­ly see­king and offe­ring the best solu­ti­on for each indi­vi­du­al guest in the restau­rant. At pre­sent, for exam­p­le, topics such as take-away or regio­na­li­ty are at the fore­front for us. 

Does it make a dif­fe­rence to you whe­ther you cook in a bank can­teen or sup­p­ly a kin­der­gar­ten lunch ser­vice? Or in the end, does it not mat­ter whe­re the pla­te is? 

There are very signi­fi­cant dif­fe­ren­ces. For exam­p­le, we distin­gu­ish bet­ween “seden­ta­ry work” and “phy­si­cal work”. People eat dif­fer­ent­ly: someone who does phy­si­cal work is more likely to want some­thing hear­ty on the pla­te, whe­re­as a ban­ker in the Zurich area is more likely to watch calo­ries, has a dif­fe­rent life­style and likes to try some­thing new from time to time. Or in the school sec­tor, for exam­p­le, we dif­fe­ren­tia­te bet­ween voca­tio­nal school, upper secon­da­ry school or uni­ver­si­ty. At a voca­tio­nal school, you might eat the­re once or twice a week, whe­re­as at a uni­ver­si­ty peo­p­le eat in the can­teen more regu­lar­ly. In addi­ti­on, we know that a 15-year-old has exact­ly ten francs per day available for food. Above all, they want to get as much as pos­si­ble for tho­se ten francs. A 25-year-old stu­dent, on the other hand, has a slight­ly hig­her bud­get. And even among stu­dents the­re are major dif­fe­ren­ces in eating habits—depending on the field of stu­dy and per­so­nal pre­fe­ren­ces. We take a very dif­fe­ren­tia­ted approach with our take-away con­cepts. About seven years ago I was head chef at The Dolder Grand; the­re it did not mat­ter what the menu cost—it sim­ply had to be the best of the best, and if it was not per­fect, we did it again. In my cur­rent role, it is more deman­ding: we have a mul­ti­tu­de of para­me­ters to con­sider, and a mul­ti­tu­de of end-cus­to­mer groups, each with dif­fe­rent para­me­ters. Here, it is usual­ly quite complex—which is just as exciting.

How invol­ved is Bianchi, for exam­p­le, when a new con­cept is developed?

First, we iden­ti­fy ide­as intern­al­ly and ask our­sel­ves which topics we want to imple­ment. Our part­ners need spe­ci­fi­ca­ti­ons that are as pre­cise as pos­si­ble so that they can take action. Just “fish” or “beef” is far too vague. But if, for exam­p­le, we say: “OK, we need prawns from sus­tainable far­ming, cali­bra­ted 16/20, unpee­led, wit­hout head,” then that is a clear ins­truc­tion and our part­ners can deli­ver pre­cis­e­ly what we need. 

Next year, for exam­p­le, we have “Mexico” as our natio­nal cui­sine the­me. We deve­lo­ped the con­cept this sum­mer, and next May the menus will be on the cards in our ope­ra­ti­ons. That is how long a well-deve­lo­ped con­cept needs in order to be imple­men­ted just as well. Innovation is very important to us, becau­se only in this way can we be bet­ter than our competitors. 

What makes Bianchi a good part­ner for SV Switzerland?

Certainly the long-stan­ding collaboration—there is a strong basis of trust. I have per­so­nal­ly known the Bianchi fami­ly for over twen­ty years; things like open­ness, hone­sty and relia­bi­li­ty mat­ter. And we also expect inno­va­ti­ve strength from our suppliers—for exam­p­le, that they approach us when they have good ide­as or new pro­ducts in their ran­ge. Exchange is important to us, and with Bianchi it always works very well. Last but not least, we also rely on our sup­pliers working strict­ly in accordance with our sus­taina­bi­li­ty gui­de­lines, and with Bianchi we sim­ply have the assu­rance that this is the case. 

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