Bianchi, the fourth
generation

A Conversation with Giulio Bianchi

A few weeks ago, I sat here with your sons. They are now in the same situa­ti­on you were in about 34 years ago
However, the situa­ti­on today is a bit dif­fe­rent. We are brot­hers; we come from the same home, the same cul­tu­re. Dario and Luca are cou­sins; they grew up in dif­fe­rent households—one more sports-ori­en­ted, the other more cul­tu­ral. We both grew up with the exact same values becau­se we had the same father. That is why we still under­stand each other instinc­tively today. Of cour­se, we had our cri­ses, but in busi­ness, we were always in agree­ment. When we had dif­fe­ren­ces, they were always emo­tio­nal­ly driven. 

Did the pecking order from the nur­sery car­ry over?
Exactly. It is hard to explain pre­cis­e­ly, but the who­le emo­tio­nal, fami­ly aspect always play­ed a role somehow. But we were always able to resol­ve it. 

Shortly after you took over the manage­ment of the fami­ly busi­ness, the move from Zurich to Zufikon took place. That was a signi­fi­cant moment. Was ever­ything clear from the start?
At that time, I was on the board of the Zurich Old Town Association, so I got ever­ything first-hand. I knew the plans of the buil­ders to install bol­lards. Back then, „Schwellen-Ruedi“ (Aeschbacher) was on the city coun­cil, and I saw that the city was clo­sing off more and more. We had to con­sider: what is actual­ly our stra­te­gic suc­cess poten­ti­al? We wan­ted to be the best logi­stics pro­vi­der in Switzerland. We could not achie­ve that from Zurich. Here, we had space, we could build, and in terms of trans­port, Zufikon is ide­al­ly loca­ted to achie­ve this goal. We bought cars; we had 60 cars, then 70, then 80, and we con­ti­nuous­ly expan­ded our rou­tes. The goal was to be able to sup­p­ly all chains ope­ra­ting throug­hout Switzerland—Mövenpick still exi­sted then, and Bindella was alre­a­dy the­re. And we always paid for all invest­ments out of cash flow. Every vehic­le, every cons­truc­tion phase—we never nee­ded a bank for that. 

As the 4th gene­ra­ti­on, you have restruc­tu­red the com­pa­ny quite a bit com­pared to befo­re. What has chan­ged? And what are today­’s challenges?
The admi­ni­stra­ti­ve shack­les impo­sed on us. It is quite bru­tal; I do not know whe­re this is hea­ded, and I do not know how our boys will deal with it one day. It is an incre­di­ble flood of ordi­nan­ces and regu­la­ti­ons. We have mee­tings with our ISO mana­ger almost dai­ly; he is now prac­ti­cal­ly our most important man. Imagine, we have over 7,000 pro­ducts, and you have to pro­vi­de near­ly 80 pie­ces of infor­ma­ti­on for each product—you can do the math. 

Well, the con­su­mers‘ desi­re for trans­pa­ren­cy regar­ding food is legi­ti­ma­te, isn’t it?
People are much bet­ter infor­med today; they also have the means to be—YouTube, the inter­net in general—you can look at every farm. Consumers do it, jour­na­lists do it; ever­ything is more trans­pa­rent than ever befo­re any­way. Two years ago, we star­ted pho­to­gra­phing every sin­gle pro­duct and listing all this infor­ma­ti­on for each pro­duct in our web shop. This way, every cus­to­mer can access any infor­ma­ti­on on any pro­duct at any time. You have to do that today, but the addi­tio­nal effort is enormous. 

Back to your father: what did he pass on to you?
Discipline. And social respon­si­bi­li­ty toward the staff. He was a patron; his employees were his fami­ly. He tru­ly led by exam­p­le, paying every sala­ry per­so­nal­ly and in cash. He sup­port­ed ever­yo­ne who had a pro­blem; one had an alco­hol pro­blem, and our father hel­ped him, went to his home, and loo­ked after him. 

When I talk to your peo­p­le, they all say rough­ly the same thing: that Bianchi is a very fami­ly-ori­en­ted company.
We have many more peo­p­le today. But it is still the case that we help our employees when they are in trou­ble. We have done ever­ything: pre-finan­ced apart­ments, bought cars, paid for divorces, lan­guage cour­ses, fur­ther edu­ca­ti­on, training—the who­le program. 

Are the­re things your father always told you that made you think, „What is the point of that?“
He was less of an entre­pre­neur than we are. He cal­cu­la­ted and reckoned dif­fer­ent­ly. He was often far too kind. But we lear­ned „ser­vice.“ Today, that is cer­tain­ly one of the most important pil­lars of our suc­cess, along­side logi­stics: ser­vice. There is no „no.“ If someone needs a red snap­per on a Sunday, we deli­ver it, whe­ther they are in Zurich, Gstaad, or the Engadine. That is some­thing we also pass on to our boys. 

It pro­ba­b­ly does­n’t neces­s­a­ri­ly pay off to dri­ve to Gstaad for just one fish.
From a short-term per­spec­ti­ve, per­haps not. But that cus­to­mer is etern­al­ly gra­teful to us. And ima­gi­ne what hap­pens when we dri­ve to the Palace in Gstaad on a Sunday; peo­p­le see that, they see that we help our cus­to­mers out of a bind. That is the kind of thing peo­p­le talk about. 

Do you see your­sel­ves in your sons when they now take the same first steps in the com­pa­ny that you did? Uncertainty, impetuousness?
Yes, cer­tain things. They are now also loo­king for are­as that we haven’t cover­ed so far. Digitalization, for exam­p­le, is a big topic whe­re they are very strong. They have alre­a­dy moved a lot the­re. And we are glad they are doing it. In turn, we can learn from them. 

Was it always clear to you that you would join the fami­ly busi­ness? Was it somehow a given?
One day, our father cal­led all four child­ren tog­e­ther and said: „Well, child­ren, I am eit­her sel­ling the busi­ness, or one of you takes it over.“ Our brot­her did­n’t want to; he was alre­a­dy quite suc­cessful in the real estate indu­stry. Our sister wan­ted to beco­me a lawy­er. I had just come from HSG and wan­ted to be a ban­ker, wan­ted to go to New York with my bud­dies and con­quer the world. Paolo said right away that he wan­ted to do it. But not alo­ne. Since the other two did­n’t want to, I thought, okay, we can do a tri­al peri­od, a year or two, and then see. 

Your decis­i­on to join back then was sure­ly a risk as well.
That was an enorm­ous risk for both of us, of cour­se. But we always enjoy­ed working here. And we still do. Even today, I look for­ward to every Monday when the week starts again. 

Do you app­ly the same stan­dards to your boys as your father did to you?
On the one hand, we are strict. On the other hand, we give them a lot of free­dom. But at the end of the day, they have to per­form. It was the same for us. In that regard, we behave no dif­fer­ent­ly than our father did toward us. 

What do you think will be the big­gest chall­enge your boys will have to face?
That will almost cer­tain­ly be the trans­for­ma­ti­on. When we star­ted here, we had young peo­p­le all around us. Just as we were. Most of us have stay­ed sin­ce then; they won’t stay fore­ver. Our guard has been get­ting up at four in the mor­ning for about 30 years now; at some point, enough is enough. It is important that the young gene­ra­ti­on builds a young team around them that can then grow with them. We will be around long enough to accom­pa­ny this pro­cess, but the two of them have to do it themselves.